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With 97.9% of the vote counted, 5,319,905 people have voted to be bigots traditional marriage proponents. 52.4% to ban to 47.6% to allow.

Looks like my Canadian residency will be permanent.

Date: 2008-11-05 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessie-c.livejournal.com
Boo for bigots : (
Yay for Jenn's Canadian residency!

Date: 2008-11-05 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenndolari.livejournal.com
>Yay for Jenn's Canadian residency!

I find it kind of sad, really. For all my joking, I do love this country. I'm sorry to see that at the same time we can vote a Black man for president, we can take away rights to other discriminated groups.

Before, when the country was being horrifyingly governed, I could say "Good Riddance." Now I can't say that, and it's more of a "I'm leaving a place that finally showing some progress - just not enough....yet."

Date: 2008-11-05 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessie-c.livejournal.com
I hear you. It's sad when hatred wins out even in the face of progress in other places.

And hey all religious nutbars: What part of "Thou shalt not bear false witness" did you not understand?

Date: 2008-11-05 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madrona.livejournal.com
:(((((((

Bigots are destroying the institution of marriage. By the way, infiltrator's scoop: the people who fervently pray against the scourge of homosexuality have *usually* been divorced at least once.

Times Jesus mentioned divorce being sucky in his Earthly ministry: >0
Times Jesus mentioned states of non-heterosexuality being sucky in his Earthly ministry: 0
(And it's not like it wasn't there. The Roman culture seeping into Judea at the time was Totally Gay.)

Seriously, California Christians? Y so dumb?

Date: 2008-11-05 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwenners.livejournal.com
It sucks to be a Californian today.

Not just because half of my state chose to buy into the fearmongering

But because all my friends get to tell me what a horrible place I live in.

It kinda gets to me. A lot.

Date: 2008-11-05 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenndolari.livejournal.com
This isn't an indictment of California.

This is about the issue where if a place like California, which is usually on the edge of culture reform, can't kill this kind of legislation, then no one else will. The fact that this fight is so CLOSE speaks volumes for at least 48% of the population of California.

California isn't a horrible place - the problem is, it's so much better than most other places, and it STILL failed.

Date: 2008-11-05 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenndolari.livejournal.com
>But because all my friends get to tell me what a horrible place I live in.

>It kinda gets to me. A lot.

Being from Texas - I hear ya. I've been hearing that for years. ESPECIALLY the last eight. And ESPECIALLY since I moved to Washington.

Date: 2008-11-05 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwenners.livejournal.com
Then you know how it feels to me.

I just want to stop having to read it.

Maybe I need to go into a cave for a while

Date: 2008-11-05 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenndolari.livejournal.com
>Then you know how it feels to me.

I do know. I also got over it in time. I'm sorry, Gwen. But I'm not going to censor myself for what I think. For what it's worth, unless there's a last minute turnaround, that'll prolly be my last say on the matter.

Date: 2008-11-06 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura-seabrook.livejournal.com
As an Aussie, I felt like that about the USA Presidential elections, about 8 weeks ago.

Date: 2008-11-05 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madrona.livejournal.com
The proponents of Prop 8 got a *lot* of ad $ from out-of-state. Sadly, this matters.

Date: 2008-11-06 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com
Utah money mostly, IIRC.

Date: 2008-11-06 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura-seabrook.livejournal.com
If ever there were signs that the time is right for you to leave, this would have to be a big'n. Canada's gain, girl.

Date: 2008-11-06 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sailorrob.livejournal.com
traditional marriage my ass. Traditional Marriage involves dowries and not being able to chose who your spouse is since it was all arranged before your first birthday

Date: 2008-11-06 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madrona.livejournal.com
Proponents of traditional marriage: One Man, As Many Women As He Can Afford

Date: 2008-11-06 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sailorrob.livejournal.com
yeah that too.

These people dont realize that the biggest threat to traditional marriage is doing it for love and not political or financial gain.

No one studies history :(

Date: 2008-11-07 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taraxoxo.livejournal.com
Prop 8 will be overturned one day.
But domestic partnerships are the future I now believe, for ALL couples. Those places which have firm support for marriage equality (i.e. have moved into the future) like Quebec, Norway, Holland, Sweden etc. do not have high marriage rates either.

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