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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:06:12 -0800
From: [email address]
To: Jenn Dolari <jenn@dolari.org>
Subject: Re: [Company] and [Company] openings...

Jennifer,

I just received word about the "incident" today. I'm not really sure what to
say. I'm a very liberal, open minded person, and I certainly don't think
it's fair to discriminate against anyone for any reason.

However, this "bathroom" situation caused quite a stir, and needless to say,
it's a very negative reflection on my company. I know it's a complicated
situation, but most of the agencies, including [Company] have firm policies
about "transgendered" employees. I'm not even sure if that's the proper term
for someone in "transition," however [Company] has very fair policies concerning
this. You could have easily kept your job and enjoyed a rewarding
experience. But it comes down to what the "plumbing" is downstairs. I have
no idea what your situation is, and it's none of my business, but if you are
still a man below the belt, they want you to use the men's facilities.

At any rate, [company] isn't going to pay us for your morning of work. So I hope
you will understand why I won't be able to pay you for your time.

I wish this would have worked out, but things happen. Next time around, I
would suggest being more honest with your prospective employer before
accepting a position in order to avoid unexpected complications.

Best of luck,
[Name]
[Company]


Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:53:49 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
From: Jenn Dolari <jenn@dolari.org>
To: [Email]
Subject: Re: [Company] and [company] openings...

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 [email] wrote:

> However, this "bathroom" situation caused quite a stir, and needless to say,
> it's a very negative reflection on my company. I know it's a complicated
> situation, but most of the agencies, including [company] have firm policies
> about "transgendered" employees. I'm not even sure if that's the proper term
> for someone in "transition," however [company] has very fair policies concerning
> this. You could have easily kept your job and enjoyed a rewarding
> experience. But it comes down to what the "plumbing" is downstairs. I have
> no idea what your situation is, and it's none of my business, but if you are
> still a man below the belt, they want you to use the men's facilities.

I appreciate that position. However, as a transitioning transgender, I
expect to be treated as a woman. I realize some places aren't able to
deal with such thing, and have policies that conflict with transgenders.
As women may feel threatened at me using a women's restroom, I will feel
threatened at usiing a male's.

This is not my first job as a female. This was never a problem with Dell
or Kinko's, Dell even backing me in a HR issue on the matter.

> I wish this would have worked out, but things happen. Next time around, I
> would suggest being more honest with your prospective employer before
> accepting a position in order to avoid unexpected complications.

I have NEVER been less than honest. My name is my name, my presentation
is my presentation. And frankly, I find this last paragraph insulting.
What is between my legs is not important in the workplace, and is
therefore never mentioned.

Thank you for the opportunity, I only wish I could have finished my job.

Jenn


I was being VERY VERY VERY VERY nice.

Date: 2003-11-05 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaecus.livejournal.com
You were extremely nice. A lot nicer than a lot of people would have been.

Maybe a lot nicer than you should be.

I'm not trying to talk you into doing something, just pointing out something.

You were working for, IIRC, a branch of the state government or someone working directly for them, correct? If so, it seems to me to be a really bad precedent to let them get away with this.

The whole thing sucks, anyway. Dammit.

Date: 2003-11-05 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenndolari.livejournal.com
I've already done the EEOC filing thing. They won't do anything for me since I'm not covered under EEOC.

If I am unhirable, I should at least get some sort of disability.

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