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[dolari]

Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 14:06:12 -0800
From: [email address]
To: Jenn Dolari <jenn@dolari.org>
Subject: Re: [Company] and [Company] openings...

Jennifer,

I just received word about the "incident" today. I'm not really sure what to
say. I'm a very liberal, open minded person, and I certainly don't think
it's fair to discriminate against anyone for any reason.

However, this "bathroom" situation caused quite a stir, and needless to say,
it's a very negative reflection on my company. I know it's a complicated
situation, but most of the agencies, including [Company] have firm policies
about "transgendered" employees. I'm not even sure if that's the proper term
for someone in "transition," however [Company] has very fair policies concerning
this. You could have easily kept your job and enjoyed a rewarding
experience. But it comes down to what the "plumbing" is downstairs. I have
no idea what your situation is, and it's none of my business, but if you are
still a man below the belt, they want you to use the men's facilities.

At any rate, [company] isn't going to pay us for your morning of work. So I hope
you will understand why I won't be able to pay you for your time.

I wish this would have worked out, but things happen. Next time around, I
would suggest being more honest with your prospective employer before
accepting a position in order to avoid unexpected complications.

Best of luck,
[Name]
[Company]

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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:53:49 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
From: Jenn Dolari <jenn@dolari.org>
To: [Email]
Subject: Re: [Company] and [company] openings...

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 [email] wrote:

> However, this "bathroom" situation caused quite a stir, and needless to say,
> it's a very negative reflection on my company. I know it's a complicated
> situation, but most of the agencies, including [company] have firm policies
> about "transgendered" employees. I'm not even sure if that's the proper term
> for someone in "transition," however [company] has very fair policies concerning
> this. You could have easily kept your job and enjoyed a rewarding
> experience. But it comes down to what the "plumbing" is downstairs. I have
> no idea what your situation is, and it's none of my business, but if you are
> still a man below the belt, they want you to use the men's facilities.

I appreciate that position. However, as a transitioning transgender, I
expect to be treated as a woman. I realize some places aren't able to
deal with such thing, and have policies that conflict with transgenders.
As women may feel threatened at me using a women's restroom, I will feel
threatened at usiing a male's.

This is not my first job as a female. This was never a problem with Dell
or Kinko's, Dell even backing me in a HR issue on the matter.

> I wish this would have worked out, but things happen. Next time around, I
> would suggest being more honest with your prospective employer before
> accepting a position in order to avoid unexpected complications.

I have NEVER been less than honest. My name is my name, my presentation
is my presentation. And frankly, I find this last paragraph insulting.
What is between my legs is not important in the workplace, and is
therefore never mentioned.

Thank you for the opportunity, I only wish I could have finished my job.

Jenn

I was being VERY VERY VERY VERY nice.

Comments

[aadroma.livejournal.com]

I wish there was something that could be done. Don't they realize that, either bathroom you use, you're screwed? This could easily have been some guy saying he was uncomfortable with someone transgendered in a man's bathroom, and they don't realize this.

You present yourself as a woman and you are in almost every regard a woman. This note should really be proof that this is highly illegal firing.

I'm sorry you're going through this, hun. (HUG)

[jenndolari.livejournal.com]

It's sadly perfectly legal. I learned that my last go round with this issue.